. >> there's a lot of energy that still comes from the tea party. while they consider themselves mostly to be republican, they occasionally will chastise even the republican establishment, so they want an independent voice. >> chastise, that's a polite way of saying what is happening recently. bob mcdonnell, great to see you. really appreciate your taking the time. >> thank, erin. >> it has been pretty interesting watching the republican party recently. a little bit like watching, perhaps, a pay-per-view wrestling match. rand paul and marco rubio, two rebuttals to the president from one party. is that a good or bad thing for the party? >> we're not a monolithic party. we have a diversity of opinions just like they do in the democratic party. the president is in the more liberal wing, and there are moderates who disagree with him on things. listen, we have work to do, after losing a presidential election two cycles in a row, to a president that had a $16 trillion debt and an 8% unemployment rate, that's not good, so there are different views on how t